Sunday, June 23, 2013

Who are Anonymous?

So, according to this video Anonymous is not a person, but an idea. Yet, there are a lot of people on facebook(and perhaps on other internet sites) wearing masks and saying they are Anonymous.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV7rIZ9laag&sns=fb

Does an idea wear a mask? For sure, there is an idea in there somewhere, of public do gooding, but one has to wonder how often this idea counts with those who say they are Anonymous, and how often the Anonymous mask is used by cyber stalkers, other bullies, and even rapists as this video is also demonstrating. Is it the same people behind the mask who are do gooding, as the ones who are doing evil?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV7rIZ9laag&sns=fb

Because, nobody is a cruel as Anonymous is...


http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Germany/Bavaria/Munich/blog-785841.html


 Is Anonymous still attacking feminists?

Text from a private message I received:


Text from a private message I received:


 ''Hi, I'm reading it right now. Is this still going on? this article is dated a few years back.''

Yes, it is still going on. It happened to me, just a couple of months ago. 

Here are some of the blogs I made about it. 

http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Germany/Bavaria/Munich/blog-786282.html

Here is another blog I made a couple of months ago. I didn't specifically mention Anonymous in this blog, because there was more than one group attacking us. A lot of them did say they were from Anonymous.


http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Germany/Bavaria/Munich/blog-776385.html

This is the article being referred to in the text from the private message above. - ''Then I got word that a loosely organized cybermob known as Anonymous was attempting to crash feminist sites, including Feministe, flooding comments sections with misogynist rants and threatening feminist bloggers with rape and other violence. This had happened before, but never with such organized force.''
http://bitchmagazine.org/article/from-the-archive-wack-attack


Unmasking the evil

See the following link. Also, note that Rapebook is not a hate page. It is a page which raises awareness about hate speech, particularly hate speech against women, such as rape jokes, and jokes about domestic violence. Would those who are concerned about women's safety put women's contact details on the open internet like what you have done, Anonymous? 

FYI: We(the admins of 'rapebook') have had the Dox linked to in the post Anonymous made on their facebook page, removed from the internet. It contained our real names, addresses and phone numbers, which whoever made the dox found via a combination of Googling, and tricking people into giving out by methods such as making clones of our facebook account to pretend to be us, and tricking people into giving information out about us, or at least this is how we guess they got the information about us.
http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/7518838


The following was said, on a discussion between me and a guy who wrote a book about Anonymous. The book is called 'Hackers on Steroids'


http://www.amazon.com/Hackers-on-Steroids-ebook/dp/B00BEPTP4C/

By me

  • What really freaks me out about Anonymous, is the sudden appearance of women in prominent positions with Anonymous. The voice on that video is female, and that makes me feel more manipulated than reassured. It might be a bit far fetched, but I am guessing it is happening because they want to reap some of the popularity that feminism is currently gaining with even people like Madonna and Boyence supporting it, and with there being growing numbers of large feminist pages on facebook. Now, a feminist section of Anonymous seems to have sprung up. What makes me doubt their sincerity where feminism is concerned is the very severely to abusive macho atmosphere on their facebook pages and groups. Also, the frequent use of words like fag, faggot.... by their admins on facebook and their followers leads me to believe that they don't have an inclusive attitude towards women or other minorities either. 

    Part of a discussion between me, and somebody calling themself Anonymous. The page name is 'The War on Ignorance' and this person is an admin on that page. I didn't know that this is yet another huge page owned by folks calling themselves Anonymous. They seem to be everywhere.

    Me
    No, I am not butthurt, as you put it. When one receives death threats, has been doxed, has had horrific images of rape and domestic violence posted on ones timeline, had ones page invaded by thousands of troll posts, one starts to believe that one must spread awareness about what is going on, as it is a public health and safety issue. People need to become aware of what those calling themselves Anonymous on facebook are doing. Yes, I know that not everyone wants to listen... - Unliking from your page. Anyone who uses words like butthurt, is in no way a supporter of any 'war on ignorance', and I am not supporter of people who troll at their page supporters.

    'The War on Ignorance' page admin
    It has nothing to do with Anonymous News Network. I am Anonymous. You could be too to and start a "FeminOp" if you wanted to.. unfortunately, you don't know the first thing about anonymous.

    Me
    You are Anonymous? Well, that explains your attitude, you troll.
    ''You could be too to and start a "FeminOp"''
    You have to be kidding! I don't join people who threaten to kill me and rape me, who dox me, and who troll all over my facebook page which is for supporting women rights. I, unlike you don't need to join a mob. I speak for myself.
    ''...unfortunately, you don't know the first thing about anonymous.''
    What I do know, is that the nutcases calling themselves Anonymous on facebook have nothing at all to do with what Anonymous is supposed to stand for.

    'The War on Ignorance' page admin
    I am an individual. The anonymous ops I find valuable to society and my goals I will participate in. You really do not know the first thing about anonymous. Anonymous is not "supposed" to stand for anything..

    Me
    Here on facebook Anonymous seems to stand for just about everything. It claims to fight paedophiles, and it also promotes hate against oppressed groups such as women.

    'The War on Ignorance' page admin
    We are not anonymous news network. Stop attacking them here.

    Me
    I am posting about what happened on my facebook page, which is a page to support womens rights. My page and it's admins were attacked by hundreds of trolls calling themselves Anonymous and wearing masks, just like the one the photo on your meme here. They threatened our page and our page admins and posted our personal details and our kids personal details on the internet. They are evil people and you should not object to me using your page to warn people about them, as at least a warning might keep some people safe and make them aware that no matter who somebody says they are, they should not automatically be trusted when they are strangers. Facebook is NOT a safe place and people should be aware of how careful they need to be.


By the author

''It's a computer-generated voice though, Anonymous videos are always made with computer-generated voices. Mostly the whole thing is a fantasy of power and rebellion, and for the most part nothing but a joke (except to the Anons, who take it deadly seriously).''

By the author

Anyone can be 'Anonymous' and some very evil and pathetic people are within its 'ranks' (as well as some decent people, to be fair - and many, MANY nutters!). My book aims to help people understand just exactly what the whole Anonymous thing is and how it grew out of trolling on the psychos playground of 4Chan.org

By me

 ''...just exactly what the whole Anonymous thing is and how it grew out of trolling on the psychos playground of 4Chan.org:'' - Looks like you observed the same as I did. Here is another discussion between me and some other admin on another massive Anonymous page. - Soon after I replied to the admins questions, my replies disappeared. 

Anonymous Oklahoma*sigh* Melissa Flaherty Why would you make 4 comments that are totally unrelated to the topic of a post about helping tornado victims? I can't help but get the feeling you are a little coo coo, or some kind of wannabe troll. I'll give you a few hours to make a case for not having your crap deleted and account banned. tick tock
Like · Reply · 25 minutes ago

Melissa Flaherty One has to wonder how you can reconcile the cyber mobbing Anonymous does, with the shows of do gooding you put on. I have been told that your massive hate pages are for the purpose of catching pedophiles, and that you attacked our page which is against hate speech, for the purpose of protecting free speech, and the free speech you were protecting is in the form of rape jokes and jokes about domestic violence. A little coo coo eh? I am sick and tired of cyber mobbing, by people like Anonymous, 4chan etc more like. - '' I'll give you a few hours to make a case for not having your crap deleted and account banned. tick tock'' Well, Anonymous and a bunch of other massive hate groups already tried bring down our facebook page and terrorized our admins. In that light, deleting what I am posting here on this discussion hardly matters at all. - Seems to me that the real purpose of the do gooding you say you do is to cover up the other sick behavior that Anonymous is up to on facebook. Read the blogs in posts I made here, if you want to know what I am talking about.
Like · 10 minutes ago

Melissa Flaherty Check out this screen shot, of one of your folks inciting attacks against our page, and posting our personal details in a dox on the open internet and tell me who is a little coo coo. As well as that, one has to wonder where Anonymous came up with those horrific photos of women being raped, that they posted on our timeline. It is horrifying to think about. And, what were those attempts to hack our admin accounts about? You wanted to hack into a page which is against misogyny, for what reason? Do you think that women should not run pages to support women's rights? That is not just coo coo, that is evil.http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/7518838

Melissa Flaherty Rape jokes are not free speech. Unless you are more than a little coo coo yourself, you should be disgusted by the types of jokes the following news article shows. This is the type of free speech your massive hate mob attacked us for objecting to. -
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/22/2046491/facebook-violence-against-women-


By the author

Yeah they are a strange 'group', although really they are just a culture and not a group and not all 'Anons' follow the same moral (or immoral) codes or attack the same targets. Too many though are pathetic creatures like the 7-stone scarecrow-like Anonymous leader Malcolm Blackman (45 years of age!) who are in it for some ludicrous fantasy of power that they otherwise would never be able to indulge themselves with. To them they are the Internet's Mafia and just as dangerous, which is so pathetic it makes me want to weep for them.

In fairness though some are decent sorts who are trying to do genuine good esp in relation to child abuse, although why they attach themselves to the culture of Anonymous I don't know.

By me

''...although why they attach themselves to the culture of Anonymous I don't know.'' - Maybe some lose prospective, when their fight against pedophiles does not seem to be as successful as they want it to be. Also, I think, some of them might be afraid of Anonymous, so conveniently believe they are what they  hope they are, otherwise they will get what our page(Rapebook) got. Some ''friends'' of Anonymous tried to warn me off reporting hate speech which was on pages owned by Anonymous. Some said, they were warning me for my own good. Others said, I am to stop reporting the hate pages, because the hate pages are to catch pedophiles. I am not sure how rape jokes and other hate speech can be used to catch pedophiles.

http://www.amazon.com/Hackers-on-Steroids-ebook/dp/B00BEPTP4C/

I received the following response, about my blog. It is a typical response by those calling themselves Anonymous on facebook. Liberal use of the words butthurt and fag make up most of their replies to my points about what many who are using the name Anonymous are really doing.

 Anonymous News Network: No one cares. You are clueless and butthurt over nothing. Hush.